When America’s most powerful Catholic woman announced her retirement from Congress, she did so quoting her city’s patron St. Francis: “Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace."
Providing facts is not “celebrating” Pelosi; Catholics must remember they are only one faith tradition. Pope Francis and Pope Leo did not politicize sacraments —though American pro-life Catholics do to the shame of non-Catholics and progressives. No one knows the heart of communicants except God. Let it go.
So you celebrate a politician's disagreements and criticism with the hierarchy of her own diocese and the Vatican. Especially that she was a staunch supporter of abortion, in which there is no compromise. Yet, in this administration in regards to immigration, you do not give the same space for mercy and understanding. You shame the politicians who criticize the pope and the bishops. Come on, you ought to do better in being impartial. These politicians need our prayers and just analysis of their work. You discredit yourself when you don't hold up to your own standards. Politicians on both aisles need to be held accountable, not celebrated when they are in clear opposition of Church teaching, no matter the party.
“It was a grace note capping a four-decade career marked by groundbreaking public service, deep Catholic roots” & “As she steps aside with a grateful heart, she leaves a legacy as a Catholic legend of the modern era”. A woman who always tried to push for rights for abortion. How can this be deeply rooted in Catholic roots? Just because she quotes St. Francis does not mean she lives by his words. Same way JD Vance can quote St. Thomas Aquinas and not live by his words. She is not a 'Catholic' legend nor is her legacy to be a authentically catholic, more celebrated by modernism and secularism. It would be no different if someone were to say JD Vance would leave behind a catholic legacy after his immigration policies. A consistent pro-life stance criticizes both side of politicians. I don't think Nancy Pelosi had a complete and authentic Catholic political career. What is reprehensible is that you don't give that same energy to her, as you do to the MAGA, Catholic politicians.
You don’t think she has a legacy as the most powerful Catholic woman in American history. I also show where she disagreed with the church. I gave multiple paragraphs on abortion in particular.
And you don’t think JD Vance is a particularly poignant figure in American Catholic history? He’s the most powerful convert in perhaps the history of the entire Church.
I think there’s more nuance in here than you give me credit for. It seems that you have a priori assumption on how I write based on my biographical history.
It wasn’t a hagiography. It was an honest assessment.
If you felt that I have judged based on your biographical history, I do intend to make that judgement. I am only assessing based off of your posts, I don't really care about your party history. I am tired of playing into the left or right wing area of politics. Young people need the authentic Gospel and Truth of the Faith that is being preached to both sides of the spectrum. Politics has become a sort of religion for people in the US. Maybe I am idealistic to think this way, but true legacy is one that is saintly not based on power. Sure their influence has impacted the now but their legacy will not last generations as saintly political leaders in the history of the Church. Pelosi and Vance both need to repent for their fallings short of the Church's teaching. I apologize for lack of nuance that I didn't understand, but I don't think the Catholic legacy we ought to elevate in American politics be from people who fall short of sanctity. You are right in that it wasn't a hagiography, yet can you honestly say you give the same honest assessments from people on the right?
It is indeed a sad commentary that a Catholic politician’s entire career should be reduced by her conscientious failure to support in a pluralistic society to one aspect, albeit important, of Catholic doctrine on the sanctity of life. While personally upholding that teaching while nevertheless upholding the law of the land this conundrum continues to be the pretext for some prelates who view themselves more Catholic than the Pope to weaponize the Eucharist by seeing it as a reward for the perfect rather than medicine for the weak one in all of us. Christopher, contrary to Mr. Amaya, I thought you struck an appropriate balance in recognizing the undoubted significant contributions of this Catholic politician whose faith was not a stepping stone for political advantage but a reality that was and is the moral touchstone of her life. Thank you! Msgr. Arthur Holquin
Do you not think that a bishop has the canonical right to stop one of their flocks from committing mortal sin? It isn't weaponization, it is pastoral love.
I don’t think either Pope Francis nor Pope Leo would agree with you in presuming to know what is in a person’s heart and mind that they would withhold communion. I believe Francis said that he never denied anyone communion.
The most catholic moment in public, could we not all hear our mothers, mother in laws and aunts in her voice when she said this "I don't hate". Who knowing the strong women in our lives doubts for second her sincerity and that she truly does pray for the president: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK_XOMun15w
Providing facts is not “celebrating” Pelosi; Catholics must remember they are only one faith tradition. Pope Francis and Pope Leo did not politicize sacraments —though American pro-life Catholics do to the shame of non-Catholics and progressives. No one knows the heart of communicants except God. Let it go.
I have always admired Nancy Pelosi and thank her for service and dedication to our country .
She will be missed she really cared about people
Of aborted babies.
She will have to answer for thousands
I love this post, well-written, and I have mixed feelings on Pelosi politically. Thank you, Chris.
So you celebrate a politician's disagreements and criticism with the hierarchy of her own diocese and the Vatican. Especially that she was a staunch supporter of abortion, in which there is no compromise. Yet, in this administration in regards to immigration, you do not give the same space for mercy and understanding. You shame the politicians who criticize the pope and the bishops. Come on, you ought to do better in being impartial. These politicians need our prayers and just analysis of their work. You discredit yourself when you don't hold up to your own standards. Politicians on both aisles need to be held accountable, not celebrated when they are in clear opposition of Church teaching, no matter the party.
What part of my text do you find most reprehensible?
“It was a grace note capping a four-decade career marked by groundbreaking public service, deep Catholic roots” & “As she steps aside with a grateful heart, she leaves a legacy as a Catholic legend of the modern era”. A woman who always tried to push for rights for abortion. How can this be deeply rooted in Catholic roots? Just because she quotes St. Francis does not mean she lives by his words. Same way JD Vance can quote St. Thomas Aquinas and not live by his words. She is not a 'Catholic' legend nor is her legacy to be a authentically catholic, more celebrated by modernism and secularism. It would be no different if someone were to say JD Vance would leave behind a catholic legacy after his immigration policies. A consistent pro-life stance criticizes both side of politicians. I don't think Nancy Pelosi had a complete and authentic Catholic political career. What is reprehensible is that you don't give that same energy to her, as you do to the MAGA, Catholic politicians.
You don’t think she has a legacy as the most powerful Catholic woman in American history. I also show where she disagreed with the church. I gave multiple paragraphs on abortion in particular.
And you don’t think JD Vance is a particularly poignant figure in American Catholic history? He’s the most powerful convert in perhaps the history of the entire Church.
I think there’s more nuance in here than you give me credit for. It seems that you have a priori assumption on how I write based on my biographical history.
It wasn’t a hagiography. It was an honest assessment.
If you felt that I have judged based on your biographical history, I do intend to make that judgement. I am only assessing based off of your posts, I don't really care about your party history. I am tired of playing into the left or right wing area of politics. Young people need the authentic Gospel and Truth of the Faith that is being preached to both sides of the spectrum. Politics has become a sort of religion for people in the US. Maybe I am idealistic to think this way, but true legacy is one that is saintly not based on power. Sure their influence has impacted the now but their legacy will not last generations as saintly political leaders in the history of the Church. Pelosi and Vance both need to repent for their fallings short of the Church's teaching. I apologize for lack of nuance that I didn't understand, but I don't think the Catholic legacy we ought to elevate in American politics be from people who fall short of sanctity. You are right in that it wasn't a hagiography, yet can you honestly say you give the same honest assessments from people on the right?
It is indeed a sad commentary that a Catholic politician’s entire career should be reduced by her conscientious failure to support in a pluralistic society to one aspect, albeit important, of Catholic doctrine on the sanctity of life. While personally upholding that teaching while nevertheless upholding the law of the land this conundrum continues to be the pretext for some prelates who view themselves more Catholic than the Pope to weaponize the Eucharist by seeing it as a reward for the perfect rather than medicine for the weak one in all of us. Christopher, contrary to Mr. Amaya, I thought you struck an appropriate balance in recognizing the undoubted significant contributions of this Catholic politician whose faith was not a stepping stone for political advantage but a reality that was and is the moral touchstone of her life. Thank you! Msgr. Arthur Holquin
Do you not think that a bishop has the canonical right to stop one of their flocks from committing mortal sin? It isn't weaponization, it is pastoral love.
I don’t think either Pope Francis nor Pope Leo would agree with you in presuming to know what is in a person’s heart and mind that they would withhold communion. I believe Francis said that he never denied anyone communion.
The most catholic moment in public, could we not all hear our mothers, mother in laws and aunts in her voice when she said this "I don't hate". Who knowing the strong women in our lives doubts for second her sincerity and that she truly does pray for the president: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK_XOMun15w
Turns out, people actually DO want socialism.
What do you consider socialism?