Before 1948 Palestinians and Jewish people lived side by side without any problems. Then Great Britain decided to move Jews to Palestinian land. Palestinian land, houses, fig and olive groves were destroyed by Israel, and houses were taken over by Jews. Palestinians were forced to leave their houses. It’s called the Nakba by Palestinians.
The Zionists were behind the move, but yes, you're right: before they developed their religious-fascist agenda, Jews lived peacefully in Palestine among the Palestinian majority. Jews would go there to pursue a religious calling, their own private matter and not anything like the Zionist lust for conquest.
The Balfor Declaration in Great Britain in 1917 at end of WWI created the support for a national home for Jewish people. The Ottoman Empire had ruled the land before.
Yes and that had been lobbied for by the Zionists. The concept dates back, well some go all the way back to Sabbateanism in the 17th century as the upwelling of messianism (which is linked to the religious belief in an origin and a return) https://cris.biu.ac.il/en/publications/the-sabbatean-syndrome-the-messianic-idea-and-zionism but I think that politically it's fair to name two moments in time/individuals: in the mid-19th century, Moses Hess, a proto-socialist/anarchic ethnic nationalist who influenced Marx https://www.britannica.com/biography/Moses-Hess . Then, in the 1890s, Theodor Herzl, a prominent but dissatisfied journalist who sought worldly success, who was charismatic and unstable, self-fashioning and grandiose, an atheist but "mystical" especially when presenting to religious Jews, found in the existing but disorganized Zionism-oriented Jews a group he could lead. So, he organized the 1st Zionist Congress and set about maintaining his leadership by driving for what they wanted. He was profligate, opportunistic, casually disingenuous, and relentless in seeking support for Zionism among every political body or individual he could contact, and that's the starting point for how the Balfour Declaration came about. He died young but Chaim Weizmann picked up the reins and finagled that piece of paper https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/martinkramer/files/forgotten_truth_balfour_declaration.pdf .
Sorry but you need to go back and review the history of the area after the fall of the Ottoman Empire and during the British Mandate.
There was considerable violence in the territory and there were contradictory promises by the British to both Jews and Muslims. The British walked away as soon as they could after WWII ended. The Jews accepted the UN’s partition plan. Arab nations attacked Israel. What ensued is reminiscent of what happened in India and Pakistan.
Netanyahu doesn’t want peace. And neither does the majority of Israeli citizens. Their aim is a greater Israel. So I wonder how a group of people can operate under those circumstances… and I think that is the reason that it is how it is. Palestinians have stepped towards peace many times… but that doesn’t work for the Israeli narrative. So they demonize them and make them out to be terrorists. And that is the reason it is how it is.
I love that he continues the personal phone calls. I can't imagine the hell these Gazans try to endure. These have surely risen to Crimes against Humanity. Heaven help them.
What approach? Blame Israel for everything that goes wrong in the Middle East and fail to hold Muslims accountable for the genocide they create. Or have you forgotten about October 7?
But aren't Americans living under the rules of the 1% ( billionaires and corporations) in exchange for the "right to vote", protection by the police etc, and permission to practice religion (but soon to restrict some, I'm sure) as long as citizens pay taxes and accept certain social and legal restrictions? Face the reality: money , power, and status rules not the people. The politicians, and soon the courts, are just the symbols of "We the people" when it comes to governing.
The religious and ethnic wars are now the wars between the wealthy and the poor.
How are the current MAGA inspired policies of revenge for political enemies and speech that criticizes the regime any different from the "terrorism" (the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.) you are condemning?
Also, you might want to comment on Miller's address at the Kirk Memorial service.
Sounds like a new wave of political "violence"or "terrorism" that he is anticipating or suggesting.
It is interesting that Israel was providing funds for Hamas through Qatar. Netanyahu has managed to avoid an inquiry into the security failures that led to the October 7 massacre happening despite signs that it was coming in advance of the day. The massacre was very real and the consequences have been very terrible.
If Israel was providing funding for Hamas through Qatar, then all Qatar would have to do is provide the documentation after the Israelis bombed Doha. That would destroy any credibility nothing in yahoo has. But they didn’t. Perhaps because they didn’t have the documentation?
Before 1948 Palestinians and Jewish people lived side by side without any problems. Then Great Britain decided to move Jews to Palestinian land. Palestinian land, houses, fig and olive groves were destroyed by Israel, and houses were taken over by Jews. Palestinians were forced to leave their houses. It’s called the Nakba by Palestinians.
The Zionists were behind the move, but yes, you're right: before they developed their religious-fascist agenda, Jews lived peacefully in Palestine among the Palestinian majority. Jews would go there to pursue a religious calling, their own private matter and not anything like the Zionist lust for conquest.
The Balfor Declaration in Great Britain in 1917 at end of WWI created the support for a national home for Jewish people. The Ottoman Empire had ruled the land before.
Yes and that had been lobbied for by the Zionists. The concept dates back, well some go all the way back to Sabbateanism in the 17th century as the upwelling of messianism (which is linked to the religious belief in an origin and a return) https://cris.biu.ac.il/en/publications/the-sabbatean-syndrome-the-messianic-idea-and-zionism but I think that politically it's fair to name two moments in time/individuals: in the mid-19th century, Moses Hess, a proto-socialist/anarchic ethnic nationalist who influenced Marx https://www.britannica.com/biography/Moses-Hess . Then, in the 1890s, Theodor Herzl, a prominent but dissatisfied journalist who sought worldly success, who was charismatic and unstable, self-fashioning and grandiose, an atheist but "mystical" especially when presenting to religious Jews, found in the existing but disorganized Zionism-oriented Jews a group he could lead. So, he organized the 1st Zionist Congress and set about maintaining his leadership by driving for what they wanted. He was profligate, opportunistic, casually disingenuous, and relentless in seeking support for Zionism among every political body or individual he could contact, and that's the starting point for how the Balfour Declaration came about. He died young but Chaim Weizmann picked up the reins and finagled that piece of paper https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/martinkramer/files/forgotten_truth_balfour_declaration.pdf .
On Herzl:
https://www.rahs-open-lid.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Penslar-Derek-Jonathan-Theodor-Herzl_-The-Charismatic-Leader-Jewish-Lives-Yale-University-Press-2020.pdf
On Hess, hagiographic and from the Zionist perspective (all this stuff is--see palquest.org and similar for history that recognizes the Palestinian interests) but informative nonetheless https://www.commentary.org/articles/jonathan-frankel/the-communist-rabbi-moses-hess/
Sorry but you need to go back and review the history of the area after the fall of the Ottoman Empire and during the British Mandate.
There was considerable violence in the territory and there were contradictory promises by the British to both Jews and Muslims. The British walked away as soon as they could after WWII ended. The Jews accepted the UN’s partition plan. Arab nations attacked Israel. What ensued is reminiscent of what happened in India and Pakistan.
There was violence there when the state of Israel was established. That was the Nakba. Read the book The Lemon Tree by Sandy Tolan.
Netanyahu doesn’t want peace. And neither does the majority of Israeli citizens. Their aim is a greater Israel. So I wonder how a group of people can operate under those circumstances… and I think that is the reason that it is how it is. Palestinians have stepped towards peace many times… but that doesn’t work for the Israeli narrative. So they demonize them and make them out to be terrorists. And that is the reason it is how it is.
The Pope’s power is in persuading us to do the right thing!
https://substack.com/@liberonews/note/c-159357707?r=5qrbeg&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
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I love that he continues the personal phone calls. I can't imagine the hell these Gazans try to endure. These have surely risen to Crimes against Humanity. Heaven help them.
Maybe if Catholics were persecuted to the death for centuries the way Jews were, Leo might have a different approach.
Maybe if the Vatican hadn’t been appeasing Islam since the papacy of JPII, Leo might have a different approach.
Don’t believe the latter? Read the following pieces I wrote:
https://www.remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/3687-the-catholic-church-s-attitude-of-dhimmitude-toward-islam
https://www.frontpagemag.com/crossing-the-tiber-to-mecca/
What approach is that?
What approach? Blame Israel for everything that goes wrong in the Middle East and fail to hold Muslims accountable for the genocide they create. Or have you forgotten about October 7?
But aren't Americans living under the rules of the 1% ( billionaires and corporations) in exchange for the "right to vote", protection by the police etc, and permission to practice religion (but soon to restrict some, I'm sure) as long as citizens pay taxes and accept certain social and legal restrictions? Face the reality: money , power, and status rules not the people. The politicians, and soon the courts, are just the symbols of "We the people" when it comes to governing.
The religious and ethnic wars are now the wars between the wealthy and the poor.
How are the current MAGA inspired policies of revenge for political enemies and speech that criticizes the regime any different from the "terrorism" (the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.) you are condemning?
Also, you might want to comment on Miller's address at the Kirk Memorial service.
Sounds like a new wave of political "violence"or "terrorism" that he is anticipating or suggesting.
It is interesting that Israel was providing funds for Hamas through Qatar. Netanyahu has managed to avoid an inquiry into the security failures that led to the October 7 massacre happening despite signs that it was coming in advance of the day. The massacre was very real and the consequences have been very terrible.
If Israel was providing funding for Hamas through Qatar, then all Qatar would have to do is provide the documentation after the Israelis bombed Doha. That would destroy any credibility nothing in yahoo has. But they didn’t. Perhaps because they didn’t have the documentation?
Read the link I provided to find out.